Comments on: Baiting and Beseeching — Obtaining the right mix of chasing links and getting them to chase you http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/ Advanced Search Engine Marketing Tips to Succeed Online Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:41:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Doug http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-13990 Doug Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:19:33 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-13990 I've found link baiting to be incredibly easy if you're willing to be obnoxious. If you're willing to stick the knife into people in the industry. Having said that - I don't do it. Its easy and you get links but you ultimately pay the price by looking like a troll. Its all about the quality. So I've found tutorials, tips, help, etc are the best way. Much like this post in fact!! :) I’ve found link baiting to be incredibly easy if you’re willing to be obnoxious. If you’re willing to stick the knife into people in the industry.

Having said that - I don’t do it. Its easy and you get links but you ultimately pay the price by looking like a troll.

Its all about the quality. So I’ve found tutorials, tips, help, etc are the best way. Much like this post in fact!! :)

]]> By: Frank http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10929 Frank Wed, 21 May 2008 03:43:27 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10929 Haha. The power of blogs eh. Thanks for your input Rex on directory submission. Didn't know bloglinks are so powerful. Haha. The power of blogs eh. Thanks for your input Rex on directory submission. Didn’t know bloglinks are so powerful.

]]> By: Paintworkzstudio Web Design http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10921 Paintworkzstudio Web Design Tue, 20 May 2008 22:15:16 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10921 WOW, last post on 28th March, whats happening ? WOW, last post on 28th March, whats happening ?

]]> By: freebingo http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10908 freebingo Tue, 20 May 2008 08:43:39 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10908 Excellent tips. I am still new just starting out and I think this is helping me to understand even deeper about how I can have links to my site. Excellent tips. I am still new just starting out and I think this is helping me to understand even deeper about how I can have links to my site.

]]> By: Claire http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10610 Claire Thu, 15 May 2008 08:50:03 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10610 Extremely useful information, i had in the back of my mind about posting information and useful articles would really make a difference, as long as this would be information that others would link to, but i haven't got round to realising the power of this, and where is the correct place to make these posts, and even what to talk about. Obviously when making posts on sites that are likely to generate alot of links, the site i am posting to link to would be linked to from a range of pageranks, which i would be scared would reduce my pagerank. However, with the amount of exposure we get its going to be worth it. Extremely useful information, i had in the back of my mind about posting information and useful articles would really make a difference, as long as this would be information that others would link to, but i haven’t got round to realising the power of this, and where is the correct place to make these posts, and even what to talk about.

Obviously when making posts on sites that are likely to generate alot of links, the site i am posting to link to would be linked to from a range of pageranks, which i would be scared would reduce my pagerank. However, with the amount of exposure we get its going to be worth it.

]]> By: boris http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10599 boris Thu, 15 May 2008 06:09:31 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10599 Hi, We are in the process of compiling a comprehensive “Do Follow” List. We have placed your blog on our list. We were hoping that you might consider linking to us and perhaps even writing about our effort. The list can be found at http://tucsonseosolutions.com/dofollowlistoflists. Thanks, Boris Hi,

We are in the process of compiling a comprehensive “Do Follow” List. We have placed your blog on our list. We were hoping that you might consider linking to us and perhaps even writing about our effort. The list can be found at http://tucsonseosolutions.com/dofollowlistoflists.

Thanks,
Boris

]]> By: Rex http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10443 Rex Tue, 13 May 2008 19:11:21 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-10443 I agree with Mr. Multivar: "The blogosphere has made it much easier to build links I think." I have spent many hours submitting my site to directories and with some small success. Article submission to Ezine etc. also produced some small success. Biggest results for me have come from commenting--on Blogs and online newspapers. I agree with Mr. Multivar: “The blogosphere has made it much easier to build links I think.”

I have spent many hours submitting my site to directories and with some small success.

Article submission to Ezine etc. also produced some small success.

Biggest results for me have come from commenting–on Blogs and online newspapers.

]]> By: Peter http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-9773 Peter Tue, 06 May 2008 00:55:25 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-9773 This was one of the better summary articles I've read on this subject. The important thing to remember about this discussion is that while everyone would love for the links to come to them, it is important to put in a lot of time and hard-work chasing them before in order to gain the credibility necessary to be able to let the links chase you. This was one of the better summary articles I’ve read on this subject.

The important thing to remember about this discussion is that while everyone would love for the links to come to them, it is important to put in a lot of time and hard-work chasing them before in order to gain the credibility necessary to be able to let the links chase you.

]]> By: Deal http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-9466 Deal Fri, 02 May 2008 08:20:17 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-9466 If you have good content you will get links on your site, it's simple way to get links and traffic - write good content! If you have good content you will get links on your site, it’s simple way to get links and traffic - write good content!

]]> By: Olivier - MotivAider http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-9242 Olivier - MotivAider Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:41:54 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-9242 I never got any luck with link directories. I will now try begging and bribing people to give me backlinks :-) Hope this works :-) I never got any luck with link directories. I will now try begging and bribing people to give me backlinks :-)
Hope this works :-)

]]> By: Arnie http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8981 Arnie Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:41:32 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8981 Linkbait is the classic risk/reward scenario. It does not work most of the time, but when it does it can be a 'home run' or even a 'grand slam'. Concentrating on both is the best plan. Linkbait is the classic risk/reward scenario. It does not work most of the time, but when it does it can be a ‘home run’ or even a ‘grand slam’.

Concentrating on both is the best plan.

]]> By: moserw http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8917 moserw Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:38:26 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8917 Just ran into this site via Google. Great article. Been using Digg and Twitter myself, but have not really noticed any great traffic from them. Google in fact beats everybody else in delivering traffic to my blog. Shall try the points outlined here. moserw www.nela.in Just ran into this site via Google. Great article. Been using Digg and Twitter myself, but have not really noticed any great traffic from them. Google in fact beats everybody else in delivering traffic to my blog. Shall try the points outlined here.

moserw
www.nela.in

]]> By: Gregor Spowart http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8712 Gregor Spowart Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:12:22 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8712 I've found the easiest places to get links are from Digg, Delicious etc. They're a good short term option for building interest and, of course, they drive traffic which is the ultimate aim of any site! Being able to choose your own title and surrounding text is handy for that all important anchor text. I have heard that Digg can be choosy about you always Digging your own content though, so like most techniques, don't abuse it an be honest - if it's not something that people would be interested in then don't Digg it. I’ve found the easiest places to get links are from Digg, Delicious etc. They’re a good short term option for building interest and, of course, they drive traffic which is the ultimate aim of any site!

Being able to choose your own title and surrounding text is handy for that all important anchor text.

I have heard that Digg can be choosy about you always Digging your own content though, so like most techniques, don’t abuse it an be honest - if it’s not something that people would be interested in then don’t Digg it.

]]> By: Scott http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8659 Scott Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:32:30 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8659 I have read on a few posts that the link anchor text is important to google, and also the theme of the website. How does google know what the theme of the site is. Is it based on the keyword that google finds when indexing the site, and then guessing the best theme, or does it maybe pick this up from the categories that the url is listed in on directory sites. Thanks Scott I have read on a few posts that the link anchor text is important to google, and also the theme of the website. How does google know what the theme of the site is. Is it based on the keyword that google finds when indexing the site, and then guessing the best theme, or does it maybe pick this up from the categories that the url is listed in on directory sites.

Thanks

Scott

]]> By: SEOmoz Pro Reviewer http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8366 SEOmoz Pro Reviewer Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:30:00 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8366 This reminded me of the second girl I ever seriously went for. Most of the fun was actually just in the chase and in eventually knowing that I could date her :) This reminded me of the second girl I ever seriously went for. Most of the fun was actually just in the chase and in eventually knowing that I could date her :)

]]> By: David Coles http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8287 David Coles Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:28:54 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8287 For a small site like mine it is really difficult to get the inbound links you crave for, I don't seem to have the time or the resources to chase those links that would be most valuable to my site, but without them my link baiting won't work because once I have created some link bait there is nobody to see it. It's like a vicious circle for me. For a small site like mine it is really difficult to get the inbound links you crave for, I don’t seem to have the time or the resources to chase those links that would be most valuable to my site, but without them my link baiting won’t work because once I have created some link bait there is nobody to see it. It’s like a vicious circle for me.

]]> By: Gavin Mitchell http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8190 Gavin Mitchell Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:24:55 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8190 The rotating anchor text code is a nice idea. What's working best for you at the moment Hamlet? I think focusing on social link building becomes a much more productive use of time as 'link chasing' becomes progressively more difficult once you've picked all the low-hanging fruit. I'll be starting a new blog in earnest later this week and will be experimenting with some of the techniques I've observed over the last few months from linkbaiters like Lyndoman and other successful bloggers. Will let you know how it goes. The rotating anchor text code is a nice idea.

What’s working best for you at the moment Hamlet? I think focusing on social link building becomes a much more productive use of time as ‘link chasing’ becomes progressively more difficult once you’ve picked all the low-hanging fruit.

I’ll be starting a new blog in earnest later this week and will be experimenting with some of the techniques I’ve observed over the last few months from linkbaiters like Lyndoman and other successful bloggers. Will let you know how it goes.

]]> By: Malte Landwehr http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8160 Malte Landwehr Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:34:01 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8160 In this days, link baiting seems to be the quickest way to success and the more natural links you can attract, the easier it becomes to include some bought/traded links without being caught. So I agree, a mix of everything is the best approach. In this days, link baiting seems to be the quickest way to success and the more natural links you can attract, the easier it becomes to include some bought/traded links without being caught. So I agree, a mix of everything is the best approach.

]]> By: MikeTek http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8156 MikeTek Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:57:16 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8156 Great post, Hamlet. I've found some difficulty myself in getting agencies to go for offering a link bait option to clients because of how risky it is. With straightforward link acquisition there is a guaranteed deliverable, at least for the most part. With link bait that fails - well, you've got nothing to show for it. It helps to have a track record of success, but as you say, it's never guaranteed. It's just difficult to get clients on board for a tactic that is, at best, spotty with results. That said, creating high-quality content at the site in question is always a priority. A focus on the entertainment/education and overall pleasure of the user is key - and even individual attempts at link bait fall short, a solid content base will always help a site build link popularity in the long run. As usual, very thoughtful post raising important issues. Great post, Hamlet. I’ve found some difficulty myself in getting agencies to go for offering a link bait option to clients because of how risky it is. With straightforward link acquisition there is a guaranteed deliverable, at least for the most part. With link bait that fails - well, you’ve got nothing to show for it. It helps to have a track record of success, but as you say, it’s never guaranteed. It’s just difficult to get clients on board for a tactic that is, at best, spotty with results.

That said, creating high-quality content at the site in question is always a priority. A focus on the entertainment/education and overall pleasure of the user is key - and even individual attempts at link bait fall short, a solid content base will always help a site build link popularity in the long run.

As usual, very thoughtful post raising important issues.

]]> By: Mr MultiVar http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8150 Mr MultiVar Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:46:52 +0000 http://hamletbatista.com/2008/03/28/baiting-and-beseeching-obtaining-the-right-mix-of-chasing-links-and-getting-them-to-chase-you/#comment-8150 I tend to focus on the interesting ways to build links and traffic such as commenting on blogs, writing content and producing things such as templates and software. I don't care for the tedious stuff such as submitting to directories. The blogosphere has made it much easier to build links I think. I tend to focus on the interesting ways to build links and traffic such as commenting on blogs, writing content and producing things such as templates and software.

I don’t care for the tedious stuff such as submitting to directories.

The blogosphere has made it much easier to build links I think.

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